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The gift of offensiveness

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[This is a response toTrevor's blog about the comments by this guy to an original Infuse blog post. Because of the length of the post, I've shortened it. To read all of what I thought, just click here.


I've asked friends about ministries they are involved in - about effectiveness, follow-up, methods, and more. Sometimes they just feel offended by the conversation and start insulting me personally ("well if you know so much, why haven't you saved the world yet?!"), or they insult ministries I'm involved in as if it's some contest to see who can be more self-righteous - and I'm not even trying to argue. I'm actually trying to have a constructive conversation, and become involved in a conversation where we can spur each other on, help each other be refined, sharpening each other (apparently as iron sharpens iron, but I've never done any real metal-work, so I'm not quite sure what that is like).

This is hard for me, because I believe if you're convinced of something it should stand the test of anyone's honest scrutiny. This is actually a significant part of my faith story, challenging myself - what do I believe, why, and why not follow a different world view or religion?

I think you should always be open to questions about anything you are doing or saying or believing - especially if you're leading others.

And you should be able to have constructive conversations with those with whom you disagree. Not yelling about how wrong they are, but finding out more about what's going on and why they do what they do.

Some people like to argue for the sake of arguing, or to validate themselves. The mindset often is: "I have to go around telling everyone else their wrong, because if I'm critical of all of them, I never have to critically think about myself. Never challenge myself, because I'm too busy challenging others.


For myself, I can win lots of arguments, even when I'm wrong. That's why some people don't like to ever argue with me. They know I'll win. (It's because I'm right.)



A college roommate (crane man) and I used to argue about everything all the time, he got so ticked off at me for starting and winning (stupid) arguments, he started arguing with everything ("It's 9:00 pm." "No it isn't!")


I had to get over the fact that you can argue someone away (usually with significant logical flaws like (such as... People who disagree with Jesus are heretics. I agree with Jesus. I disagree with you. Therefore, you disagree with Jesus and are a heretic or You just have a problem with my pungent offensiveness because you feel guilty for not doing what I'm doing, because I'm right! (and, by the way, you're a heretic).).

You can really feel good about yourself.


Perhaps if you're into initiating confrontational evangelism (curiously rare in Jesus' ministry, though people were constantly approaching him and being confrontational), being "on the offensive" you can get into the mindset that you have the gift of offensiveness, and your mission from God is to argue with people.


So how do you respond to someone like this? We can be fairly certain how they would respond - by arguing, driving the point home, using (ripping) scripture (out of context) to make themselves look and feel good.


Unfortunately, no discussion actually exists there. A discussion works best when both people are humble enough to be pursuing more than their ego - seeking for their understanding to agree more with truth.

Without a discussion, and only an argument, is it even something you want to enter into anyway? That seems to go against the idea of evangelism originally presented in the Infuse blog (link at the top of the post). Jesus tended to end those situations pretty quickly and move on by confusing them with a parable or getting them stuck with a question of his own.

When Paul wrote the churches he said to do our part to live at peace with everyone, and to have speech seasoned with salt. I fear that those seeking to always show confrontation, correction, and whatever else it is that is perceived as self-righteous spite by their targets - that they've lost their saltiness.

I do think we need to always be open to the intellectually and spiritually honest discussion with these same people, but we don't need to get into the argument. The Bible says some harsh things to those trying to stir up controversy in the church.



Sinners were attracted to Jesus, not repulsed. His response? Sit down with them and eat. He did this with Matthew the tax collector, he did this with Zaccheaus. The result of one meal with Jesus? They followed him. And without tracts, the church grew.



I don't have a problem with street evangelism. I've been very involved in some of these efforts. I have a problem with the excessive pride that some who claim to follow Christ, and by so displaying their sin while trying to present the gospel repel those who would be super attracted to Jesus, just by eating matzo and drinking wine with him.


Question for Trevor - and to see if he reads the blog - you reference something along the lines of a problem of shallowness in the church being that many think that because they repeat certain words on a tract as a prayer they're good to go and don't actually have to follow Jesus with their lives.

Do you think that it's the same problem when people think that to evanglize they just have to go out and say certain words in a certain presentation, and they're good to go and don't actually have to show Jesus by their lives?
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  1. Trevor on 5/18/07, 10:11 PM

    Hi Jon--

    Your question at the end of the post hits it right on for me. Unfortunately we found this awkward way of seperating proclamation of the gospel and the life that results from transformation by that gospel. I don't think you can truly live out faith and never talk about it or talk about it all the time without clear evidence of living it.

    Thanks for the post. I think it encompasses my thoughts well.

    Hope I passed!!

     


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